Sep 15 2011 Public Transport Card Hacker Brenno de Winter and WikiLeaks Hacker Rop Gonggrijp criticize and advise Dutch government on DigiNotar issue during political debate. Emphasize need for better IT security Left to right: Ot van Daalen – Bits of Freedom Brenno de Winter Rop Gonggrijp Dutch language broadcast (Live) Share this:Like this:LikeBe the first to like this post.